Comments on: The ‘Real’ Xenos Model http://neozine.org/inside/176 The grace of God has appeared... Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:36:56 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Bottomless http://neozine.org/inside/176/comment-page-1#comment-7909 Bottomless Mon, 15 Feb 2010 00:23:50 +0000 http://neozine.org/inside/the-real-xenos-model/#comment-7909 Interesting, did you plan to continue this article? Bottomless... Interesting, did you plan to continue this article?
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]]> By: The Portal » Chicago Church-Planting Conference http://neozine.org/inside/176/comment-page-1#comment-2958 The Portal » Chicago Church-Planting Conference Sun, 14 Sep 2008 06:37:36 +0000 http://neozine.org/inside/the-real-xenos-model/#comment-2958 [...] trends in Christianity. For months Keith was writing about these new trends in the NeoZine (se... [...] trends in Christianity. For months Keith was writing about these new trends in the NeoZine (see The ‘Real’ Xenos Model, for example), and then at the 2008 July Body Meeting at Hudson park he taught about the trends and [...]

]]> By: The Portal » Moving the Mafia Aside http://neozine.org/inside/176/comment-page-1#comment-2957 The Portal » Moving the Mafia Aside Sun, 14 Sep 2008 06:30:25 +0000 http://neozine.org/inside/the-real-xenos-model/#comment-2957 [...] trends in Christianity. For months Keith was writing about these new trends in the NeoZine (se... [...] trends in Christianity. For months Keith was writing about these new trends in the NeoZine (see The ‘Real’ Xenos Model, for example), and then at the 2008 July Body Meeting at Hudson park he taught about the trends and [...]

]]> By: FEBA Team » Hello FEBA Team! http://neozine.org/inside/176/comment-page-1#comment-903 FEBA Team » Hello FEBA Team! Fri, 06 Jun 2008 08:25:05 +0000 http://neozine.org/inside/the-real-xenos-model/#comment-903 [...] Read http://neozine.org/inside/the-real-xenos-model/ [...]... [...] Read http://neozine.org/inside/the-real-xenos-model/ [...]

]]> By: KMcCallum on the Net » Blog Archive » Hello World! http://neozine.org/inside/176/comment-page-1#comment-886 KMcCallum on the Net » Blog Archive » Hello World! Tue, 03 Jun 2008 02:05:40 +0000 http://neozine.org/inside/the-real-xenos-model/#comment-886 [...] Writing a series about church growth - which is a re-evaluation of our Xenos history and the &... [...] Writing a series about church growth – which is a re-evaluation of our Xenos history and the “Real Xenos Model.” [...]

]]> By: NeoZine » Blog Archive » Viral Church http://neozine.org/inside/176/comment-page-1#comment-815 NeoZine » Blog Archive » Viral Church Tue, 27 May 2008 04:04:33 +0000 http://neozine.org/inside/the-real-xenos-model/#comment-815 [...] the section "The Business-Leader Model" in the NeoZine article, "The Real Xenos Model" for an ... [...] the section “The Business-Leader Model” in the NeoZine article, “The Real Xenos Model” for an interesting description of Willow Creek building “self-feeders”. [...]

]]> By: Diana http://neozine.org/inside/176/comment-page-1#comment-724 Diana Tue, 20 May 2008 18:02:50 +0000 http://neozine.org/inside/the-real-xenos-model/#comment-724 "Sending means chaos. It was pure, sweet chaos in “the southern flank.” Our meeting place was a ... “Sending means chaos. It was pure, sweet chaos in “the southern flank.” Our meeting place was a messy thing, with messed-up people and poor planning and resources stretched beyond breaking.”

Keith this is so true. At the time those first meetings at KSU were so exciting and we knew God was working and building something through us there there. Looking back as a somewhat more experienced leader, I think, “We were a bunch of goofballs!” I think if I were you back then I would have a hard time looking at our motley crew and believing God could do anything with our messed up selves. Thanks for investing in us and taking the risks to send out this new messy group of college punks.

]]> By: lbeech http://neozine.org/inside/176/comment-page-1#comment-721 lbeech Tue, 20 May 2008 12:00:08 +0000 http://neozine.org/inside/the-real-xenos-model/#comment-721 I have other reasons to consider this: Credit was much more difficult to acquire in the 70's and ... I have other reasons to consider this:

Credit was much more difficult to acquire in the 70’s and 80’s. I recall my my mom could not get credit – being a divorced woman – she also made too much for government assistance, yet we were very poor. Today credit is far easier to acquire, yet not as easy as a year ago.

I just wonder if economic difficulties — the stress of war (remember Vietnam was ending in the 70’s), and post secondary education being something that was more readily accessible to all – not just the rich or those who were able to get aide/financing, if these things could be the start of a spiritual resurgence. I believe it is – yet this generation has redefined truth as something that is contextualized and viewed through perspectivalism. Truth is no longer absolute. There are no answers.

Things in the 70’s seemed to be ripe for a revival or a seeking for answers to a screwed up world. Now I look around and listen … I hear a lot a confused people – as a whole not suffering yet … but is it coming?

What do we do in this climate of uncertainty, fuzzy truth, and people seeking answers.

It seems so confusing to me and I understand truth.

]]> By: Joe http://neozine.org/inside/176/comment-page-1#comment-711 Joe Mon, 19 May 2008 17:45:06 +0000 http://neozine.org/inside/the-real-xenos-model/#comment-711 Hey Lisa - that's an interesting recession thought...for now, at least around me, most people are co... Hey Lisa – that’s an interesting recession thought…for now, at least around me, most people are consumed with their personal finances, buying/ refinancing a house, getting better jobs.

]]> By: lbeech http://neozine.org/inside/176/comment-page-1#comment-709 lbeech Mon, 19 May 2008 15:54:09 +0000 http://neozine.org/inside/the-real-xenos-model/#comment-709 We forgot what really gave Xenos credibility in the secular realm: it was one-on-one sharing the...

We forgot what really gave Xenos credibility in the secular realm: it was one-on-one sharing the Gospel.

It seems that people were receptive to the gospel and Christians were burdened to share.

Keith I am curious how the uncertainty of the 70’s and early 80’s may have played a role in the explosion of church growth. If I recall, the ecomonic times were poor at best, there was not the comfortable affluence of the later 80’s and 90’s.

With the economy taking another dive – will people be more open to the gospel as their personal resources move from abundant to meager? Will the impending recession result in people looking for answers for the pain and emptiness that money can no longer mask?

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