Comments on: The ‘Restless Reformed’

By: NeoZine » The Fears in Legalism

NeoZine » The Fears in Legalism — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 01:23:07 +0000

[...] books about God’s sovereignty, along with popular church leaders Driscoll and Chandler (see The Restless Reformed). But another fascinating influence in this movement is Wayne Grudem, from Trinity Seminary. When [...]

By: NeoZine » Heartless Institutions

NeoZine » Heartless Institutions — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 07:56:42 +0000

[...] Restless Reformed described earlier are certainly refreshing, innovative thinkers moving away from some of the [...]

By: KMcCallum on the Net » Understanding the Church

KMcCallum on the Net » Understanding the Church — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:54:47 +0000

[...] The ‘Restless Reformed’ and understand what’s happening among today’s Christian [...]

By: Remonstrance » “Macho Man”, Take 2

Remonstrance » “Macho Man”, Take 2 — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:27:35 +0000

[...] you’re reading about “the Restless Reformed” in the zine, you’ll see what I mean. He throws a dose of Calvinism in there to keep it [...]

By: kmcc

kmcc — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 17:41:24 +0000

OMG! Is the Pope Catholic?

By: kalie.b

kalie.b — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:19:17 +0000

Is Driscoll actually Amillenial?

By: lbeech

lbeech — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:15:42 +0000

You said it well – that is why I know I must stay in my Word and engage ideas and other beliefs – by doing so I see where I may be lacking the ability to teach the BIG P with FULL PERSUASION. This is not just a one time undertaking – at least for me – it needs to be continuous.

By: kmcc

kmcc — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:00:20 +0000

Frankly, I wish the Calvinists had this flexibility in their thinking on some of their dogma: “that must be more particularly determined out of the Holy Scriptures before we ourselves can teach it with the full persuasion of our minds.”

I think you’ll find this is the classic Xenos teaching on the “P” of TULIP, although I myself feel I can teach the “P” it “with the full persuasion”

By: lbeech

lbeech — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:27:40 +0000

So, then what is your stance on the preseverence of the saints?
Do you stand with those Remonstrants of old? Or do you take the Calvinist bent – which I know is the Xenos belief.
I just looked up article 5, which concludes:

But whether they are capable, through negligence, of forsaking again the first beginnings of their life in Christ, of again returning to this present evil world, of turning away from the holy doctrine which was delivered them, of losing a good conscience, of becoming devoid of grace, that must be more particularly determined out of the Holy Scriptures before we ourselves can teach it with the full persuasion of our minds.

I must confess that although I believe that scripture teaches that the truly saved will persevere to ultimate glorification – there are times I truly wonder if those who once professed faith in there youth or young adult years and then GO atheist – where they ever saved? Or do they fall from grace so to speak. At times I have thought as the Remonstants. I’ve know a few who have gone away from faith to promote false doctrines and advocate that there is not a God – let alone salvation through JC.

By: Keith McCallum

Keith McCallum — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:31:37 +0000

Well Lisa, aren’t you the enlightened one? You must ask yourself this question: what is the name of my blog? That would surely give you the answer to your questions.

“Lordship theology” might or might not be associated with Covenant Theology. Bruxy Cavey taught it at XSI, and they’re Armenian. But also MacCarther, who is Covenant Theology, teaches it. I haven’t run across this with Driscoll, offhand. Normally Reformed theology is highly grace-oriented.

Re: Kalie’s probing questions, Driscoll calls himself a “4 1/2 Point Calvinist” – by which he means he retains a degree of flexibility when dealing with the non-Reformed…he’s not mean about it, but he stays within the Reformed camp.

You can see some of his Covenant theology here:
http://www.marshillchurch.org/sermonseries/doctrine/week_06.aspx

Now, to be precise, I’m not saying Driscoll wants the church to conquer the earth. I am saying, however, this is foundational in Reformed and Augustinian theology. It’s called Amillenialism. I am publishing more about this, yes. But you, for one, should know about this already from LTC1, right?

Also, FYI, F. Schaeffer was Amillenial and Covenantal.