Comments on: Driscoll Versus the WeeWars, Part 1

By: Keith McCallum

Keith McCallum — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:53:12 +0000

I really don’t think you’d find one person having all three leadership gifts, Rick. From a theological perspective it’s problematic because such a leader would be a “super-leader” who really doesn’t need others. But we’re inter-dependent in the Body of Christ, and God deliberately spreads the gifts out.

I suppose Paul probably had all three leadership gifts, but this is an extraordinary situation, I would imagine. But of course, I couldn’t be dogmatic about it, but I sure would be skeptical about someone claiming to have all three.

By: Rick

Rick — Thu, 29 May 2008 22:57:48 +0000

Yes, thanks for passing all of this along. Katrina and I really missed being at the servant Team Retreat this year.

I find the three aspects of leadership explained by Driscoll interesting. I would be looking for three separate people, each gifted in one of the three ways in order to lead a successful multi-site fellowship, as opposed to one person supposedly possessing all three.

I need to listen to Driscoll’s talk again.

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By: Kyle

Kyle — Mon, 19 May 2008 01:38:25 +0000

It is too easy to think of the heavenly kingdom in terms of how we view the kosmos. leadership works differently in the world’s system. The weak get crushed and the strong survive to become the heads and rule according to their own rule. What about Christ’s? Without emphasis on the prophet-leader view of leadership, we will be crushes by the armies of darkness. (see the movie “The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian” for a full illustration.)

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A Cool Paradigm for Xenos? — Tue, 13 May 2008 07:40:55 +0000

[…] Driscoll Versus the Weenie Wars, Part 1 discusses the sound leadership paradigm proposed by Mark Driscoll, one of the upcoming speakers at the Summer Institute in Columbus. It’s good exposure to how Driscoll approaches Christian ministry, but it some of what he teaches also needs to be carefully considered at NeoXenos. […]

By: kalie.b

kalie.b — Mon, 12 May 2008 17:37:36 +0000

Thanks for sharing that link. I really liked Driscoll’s teaching. I’ve read about him but never heard him teach before.

And thanks for sharing your critique of the STR teachings. I loved what they were saying about grace and being faithful, and I know I get too caught up in the “kingly” pragmatic/ego side. But I wasn’t sure how to fit it all together with what I’ve known of strategy, methods, and stats. I knew they weren’t mutually exclusive, but this priest-king-prophet bit seems like a very biblical and practical perspective.